I wanted to guess Brown spider? The one commonly labeled a recluse? Pics...













If I knew how Christian did it, Id make them pics instead of links to them.
Either way, really good looking spider!
Im particularly curious about the..mouth parts. The only spider I recall seeing in such oversized proportions was a jumping spider I cant recall now that was on Monster Bug Wars recently.

At any rate if anyone knows what this specifically Id love to know!

On photobucket there is an "image" link. It has a code which is [.img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/Dukagora/SANY0228.jpgl[./img] but you have to remove the "." for it to work.

I'll fix your post, but now you know. Also, I have NO clue on that spider!

Something to keep in mind for getting IDs on spiders - rather than posting a bunch of failrly similar photos, a few good photos showing important features would make identifications easier. A good dorsal shot, a good ventral shot, and maybe a frontal ("face") shot. One of the most important features in spider identification is the arrangement of the eyes. This may be difficult to get with small spiders and "point and shoot" cameras, so if you could sketch the eye arrangement on a piece of paper and post a pictue of that it would help.

So its likely not possible to ID this guy from my pics then? I will consider the eye arrangement in the future. My camera just cant get terribly detailed. Better pics might have been possible with a more docile spider but this guy was fairly quick. I have no idea how dangerous it might have been so trying super hard to get the photos I wanted wasnt as important to me as safety. I like my limbs

I was also hoping that his apparently freakishly large chelicerae would be helpful in Iding him. I dont spider hunt as often as I want but I havent come accross one like that.

At any rate thanks for looking at the pics!

Nothing wrong with being careful. The front most appendages do not say recluse though. Since your account does not have a local, you might provide a rough location as well. If you have in the past, trust me, my memory is junk.

Oh. How did Wade know I live in Arizona? He must be all knowing!

Im specifically in Prescott Arizona. He was found in our warehouse by myself and...detained.

Maybe a species of Long Jawed Orb Weaver in the family Tetragnathidae? Although I'm not too sure about that.

That was the ball park my brain was in, but with true spiders, I'm not even sure where the park is.

Its not a Loxceles reclusa. I am intimately familiar with those. Look at Bugguide.net and see if cellar spider comes close. Loxceles reclusa have a very distinctive eye pattern, if you see a 'fiddleback' and are not sure, the eyes are a good way to tell. they have six eyes, grouped in widely spaced pairs, each pair so close together they look as though they have three eyes.

see this very good website for Brown recluse identification info:
http://spiders.ucr.edu/recluseid.html

Hard to be sure from the pictures, but I don't think those are the chelicerae, those are the pedipalps that are so oddly proportioned.

Definitely not a recluse. However, I do have a guess: a mature male Kukulcania. Not certain on that, but it sure looked familliar to me...

I had someone bring me a very similar looking spider once who was also thinking recluse, but of course the fact that it was many times the size of the real recluse that was ruled out. Since I'd be raising some K. hibernalis at the time I recognized it as that species. When the males of this genus mature they look radically different from the much darker and stockier females. K. hibernalis is the common one we have in the east, but I know you have one or two species in AZ.

Kukulcania are really neat to keep as captives. The females are as long lived some tarantulas and continue to molt after reach maturity, very unusual among araneomorph spiders!

Wade

Yup, this is a Kukulcania. Mature male as suggested above.

I didnt check on this thread for more responses. Thanks for the input on it! This, or something similiar, was presented in the last presentation at the conference. Neat looking spider!

Yep. Zach showed a pictire or two of Kukulcania. And on the field trip Sunday he found one.

naturally! If we didnt have the little one with us we would have gone. =(. I do have some pics from a trip we went on this Saturday. I think at some point I will make a thread for it. We saw some neat stuff!